So the end justifies the means? If someone endures hardship for years of their life, and then ends up being happy in the end, that justifies the hardship..? sounds a lot like gambling to me, and I don't see the point in it. If your brother hadn't had his stomach pumped, and had died, what bad would have come of it.
I believe the compassionate person tries to help the suicide through their pain
That's all well and good, so long as they don't try and impose their own agenda on to them, or manipulate them with guilt etc.
I think you hold a double standard wanting the relations to be objective, but failing to ask that of the suicide.
It's not a double standard, because when dealing with your own life you can't be anything but subjective, but when dealing with other people's lives, you should strive to be as objective as possible, to respect them and their identity, and to know that you can't understand what it is exactly that they're feeling.
You are continually advocating that people have the right to put their views on others, and when others don't live up to their beliefs and their standards, they have the right to enforce these, but only in the situation where it coincides with what you believe. You believe that suicide is wrong, so you see no fault in people doing whatever is in their power to prevent others from committing suicide. This about falls in line with missionaries destroying native cultures because they are 'saving' the natives, burning witches because they're in league with the devil, and will damn people to hell. You are imposing your standards on other people with a tyrannical rule, and believing you're right because the majority agrees with you.
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Date: 2004-04-15 08:57 pm (UTC)That's all well and good, so long as they don't try and impose their own agenda on to them, or manipulate them with guilt etc.
It's not a double standard, because when dealing with your own life you can't be anything but subjective, but when dealing with other people's lives, you should strive to be as objective as possible, to respect them and their identity, and to know that you can't understand what it is exactly that they're feeling.
You are continually advocating that people have the right to put their views on others, and when others don't live up to their beliefs and their standards, they have the right to enforce these, but only in the situation where it coincides with what you believe. You believe that suicide is wrong, so you see no fault in people doing whatever is in their power to prevent others from committing suicide. This about falls in line with missionaries destroying native cultures because they are 'saving' the natives, burning witches because they're in league with the devil, and will damn people to hell. You are imposing your standards on other people with a tyrannical rule, and believing you're right because the majority agrees with you.